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  • Gaurav Mishra 12:09 am on February 18, 2009 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , BigAdda, Comscore, , , , , , , ,   

    Comscore Report on Social Networking Sites in India 

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    According to a Comscore report on social networking sites in India, visits to the site category increased 51 percent from the previous year to more than 19 million visitors in December 2008.

    Orkut is still a strong #1 with 12.8 million visitors and a 81% growth over December 2007. Facebook is far behind with 4.0 million visitors, in spite of its impressive 150% growth. BharatStudent is a surprising #3 with 3.3 million visitors and a 88% growth.

    Other international social networking sites Hi5, MySpace and LinkedIn also did well at #4, #6 and #7 with 2.0 million, 0.7 million and 0.5 million visitors and growths of 182%, 110% and 71% respectively.

    The Indian social networking websites Ibibo and BigAdda, however, didn’t do well and fell down by 50% and 25% to 1.0 million and 0.4 million visitors respectively.

    I’ll look at the Comscore data with suspicion because it excludes traffic from cyber cafes, an important venue for internet access in India.

    Still, the data is mostly consistent with my analysis of search trends for social networking sites in India, with the exception of BharatStudent’s surprise #3 position. I knew that both Ibibo and BigAdda were struggling, in spite of refocusing on entertainment, but I thought BigAdda was struggling more. Part of the reason may be that Comscore has only released one month’s data but the traffic for Ibibo and BigAdda fluctuates based on their ad campaigns.

    I expect the trend of international social networking websites gaining ground from Indian social networking websites to continue, because most Indian players in the space are mere me-too clones. As I said in my social media predictions for 2009, several Indian social networking websites will shut down in 2009, unless they reposition themselves as niche player.

    Cross-posted at International Values and Communications Technologies.

     
    • Sayan 3:34 am on February 18, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      Interesting study, and you are right about the cyber-cafes bit. BTW, just a quick typo you may want to fix: I guess you meant Comscore not Comcast

      • Billu 8:54 am on February 18, 2009 Permalink | Reply

        Comscore is no.1 – I know orkut,facebook and Bharat student are rocking in INDIA!!

    • Debashish Brahma 12:33 pm on February 18, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      dear gaurav,
      very informative,thanks for the post.

    • linxiao 7:03 am on November 27, 2009 Permalink | Reply

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      I have to assume these will be filed under unaffordable (which is good – more money for St. Jude!), but I'll still be going to the pickyouruggs.com Web site on December 1 to window shop and see what these designers have cooked up.

      I am trying to picture what I would do to make these high end… Real Italian leather? A pearl brooch? Other expensive ingredients and sparkles? Maybe the differences won't be that extreme, but I hope each designer puts his personal touch on the shoe. I'm certain at the very least you'll be able to pick out which Uggs came from Betsey Johnson (UGG Classic tall 5815 boots, please!).

      The event is likely to inspire as many interesting Ugg knockoffs as there are regular Ugg knockoffs, so it is possible we'll see something like this around town next year. It's not only a great event for charity but probably also a good move to keep Uggs alive and relevant… especially with the number of people who'd like to see them disappear for good!UGG boots on sale!

      I will of course keep wearing my Uggs because A) I have them and B) they are warm, but if your kid asks Santa for Where the Wild Things Are UGG boots… I feel for ya.

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  • Gaurav Mishra 12:52 pm on January 4, 2009 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , BigAdda, , DesiMartini, , , , , , , , , Ravi Shastri, , , Yaari   

    Recap of the Social Networking Space in India in 2008 

    Rajiv Dingra at WATBlog has a great recap of the social networking space in India in 2008.

    The highlight, for me, is the war for the #1 spot between Facebook and Orkut. Orkut introduced the OpenSocial applications platform and replicated several Facebook features, offered themes, and provided regional language and mobile support. Facebook also added key features like chat that are likely to become popular in India. As I showed in my analysis of search trends for social networking sites in India, interest in Orkut is stagnant, while interest in Facebook is growing, even though the gap between the two is still significant.

    The other social networking sites in India positioned themselves on content, instead of social networking features. BigAdda and Ibibo focused on entertainment and positioned themselves as quasi blogging platforms by getting celebrities like Amitabh Bachchan and Ravi Shastri to blog for them. However, as I showed in my analysis of search trends for blogging platforms in India, unlike blogging platforms like Wordpress and Blogger/ Blogspot, which have shown slow but consistent growth, the interest in Ibibo and BigAdda has fluctuated significantly, probably based on whether they were running big ad campaigns at the time.

    There hasn’t been much to write home about the other social networking sites in India. MySpace launched in India in 2008, but has failed to get significant traction outside the big cities. Minglebox has chosen to directly complete with BharatStudent in the education space. Fropper, DesiMartini and Yaari have remained under the radar for most of the year, except when Yaari has been accused of phishing.

    As I have said before, focusing on content is a smart strategy for Indian social networking sites, as they fight the twin battles of relevance (w.r.t. Facebook/ Orkut/ MySpace)and monetization but I don’t think it will be enough –

    Google, for instance, has struggled to monetize both YouTube and Orkut and it hasn’t even tried to monetize Blogger. Moreover, if social network users are resentful of ads intruding into their social interactions, content creators have come to expect at least a part of the ad revenue pie, even if they “choose” to put ads next to their content.

    I don’t think that significant advertising on Indian social networking sites will happen in 2009, and if it does happen, I don’t think it will be very effective. (I’m also surprised that brands are trying to do lead generation on Indian social networking sites. What are they thinking?)

    Marketing on social media is a long term, low burn game and I’m not sure how many Indian brands (or social networking sites, or advertising agencies) understand it or are willing to doing it.

     
    • Gaurav 11:48 pm on January 4, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      Why do you say this?
      Gaurav

      (I’m also surprised that brands are trying to do lead generation on Indian social networking sites. What are they thinking?)

    • Gaurav Mishra 1:50 am on January 5, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      @Gaurav: I’m hardly a social media purist, but why would brands try to do lead generation in the social networking context, where the users aren’t even thinking about buying things? Why wouldn’t brands focus on search for lead generation and on social media for customer support and brand engagement?

    • Kiran 1:23 am on January 15, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      Gaurav, 2009 will be for businesses using social networks and indian social media will go to next step in 2009.

  • Gaurav Mishra 6:15 pm on January 2, 2009 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: BigAdda, , Blogspot, , , , , LiveJournal, Search Trends,   

    Search Trends for Blogging Platforms in India 

    Here’s some interesting data on search trends for blogging platforms in India using Google Insights for Search data for 2008.

    Apart from the three main blogging platforms Blogger/ Blogspot, Wordpress and LiveJournal, I have also looked at social networking sites Ibibo and BigAdda that are promoting themselves as blogging platforms.

    Search Trends for Social Networking Sites in India

    The data from 2004 to 2008 shows that the top three blogging platforms have shown consistent growth: Blogspot since 2004, Wordpress since 2005 and Ibibo since 2006, even as Both BigAdda and LiveJournal have failed to grow. So, Sampad’s assertion that blogging is on a decline in India isn’t really substantiated.

    Search Trends for Social Networking Sites in India

    In the last twelve months, Blogger and Wordpress have shown slow but consistent growth, LiveJournal has stayed stagnant, while the search traffic for Ibibo and BigAdda has fluctuated significantly, probably based on whether these platforms were running big ad campaigns at the time.

    In terms of relative search rankings, Blogspot is at #1, Ibibo and Wordpress are close together at #2 and #3, BigAdda is #4 and LiveJournal is a distant #5.

    This data is inconsistent with the Alexa traffic data for India which ranks Blogger/ Blogspot at #7, Wordpress at #16, Ibibo at #58, BigAdda at #274 and LiveJournal at #282.

    It seems that Wordpress/ Blogger users either don’t search for these websites (which is reasonable) or they are more likely to install the Alexa toolbar (which is also likely).

    Search Trends for Social Networking Sites in India

    In terms of statewise interest, Blogspot and Ibibo have penetrated almost the entire country, although interest for Blogspot is stronger in the more prosperous Western and Southern states. Wordpress is still to break through into the Hindi heartland of India. BigAdda has interest only in NCR, apart from the Western and Southern States. Interest in LiveJournal is limited to NCR and Maharashtra.

    Also see my analysis of search trends for group SMS and microblogging services and social networking sites in India using Google Insights for Search data.

     
    • Sampad Swain 11:52 pm on January 2, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      There is a vast difference between “Blogging” as search query and “Blogging platforms”. My results were generic one but your data shows some interesting insights in terms of the individual platforms being used. Hence, the difference of opinion I believe.


      Sampad

    • Gaurav Mishra 2:11 pm on January 4, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      @Sampad: I was not trying to attack you, just adding more context to your analysis. In the end, both you and I are trying to figure out if blogging is becoming more or less popular in India. It seems from both traffic and search trends that it isn’t.

  • Gaurav Mishra 6:12 pm on December 30, 2008 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , BigAdda, , , , , , , , , Priyanka Joshi, ,   

    Indian Social Networking Sites Ibibo and BigAdda Focus on Entertainment to Woo Users and Marketers 

    Priyanka Joshi in Business Standard

    Around 20 million internet users actively use the social media sites in India. According to market research firm IDC, the use of social networking sites will continue to grow, but advertising may not necessarily expand along with it. The result is that Indian start-ups like Ibibo and BigAdda are innovating to get brands onto their networks. 2009 might turn out to be the year when marketers will realise the potential of cross-promoting their media buys on the social networking websites.

    “Local marketers are becoming familiar with the best ways to promote their businesses and by crossing online and offline campaigns, they are getting more bang for their buck,” said Shivanandan Pare, COO, BigAdda, that commenced operations 15 months back. The brands that are promoting themselves on BigAdda include Nokia, Lenovo, Sony Ericsson and Intel among others.

    Ibibo, which calls itself a ‘talent based social networking site’, is willing to bet that 2009 would be the year when targeting consumer on social sites will have a far bigger payout than any other media. Ashish Kashyap, CEO, Ibibo, has built traction for his site among the 14-28 year olds by running talent-based contests since its inception.

    IDC reveals that social networking sites need to prove ad effectiveness, “and the only way to fix it is to get people to do stuff on social networks other than communicate,” reports IDC. This means encouraging activities that readily lend themselves to advertising such as sharing media, consuming media, playing games and collaborating on applications.

    BigAdda is already carefully positioning its platform as a branding solution provider. “We are pitching advertisers to use BigAdda.com for brand building activities, rather than just carrying out lead generation and returns on investment (ROI) driven campaigns,” insists Pare.

    Most Indian social networking sites are now trying to focus on content more than pure social networking because they realize that they can’t beat Facebook and Orkut at their own game.

    Ibibo and BigAdda have chosen to focus on entertainment. Both Alexa and Compete data shows that Ibibo’s strategy of heavily promoting its contests offline is paying more dividends than BigAdda’s strategy of getting celebrities like Amitabh Bachchan to blog for it.

    I think focusing on content is a smart strategy, but I don’t think it will be enough. Google, for instance, has struggled to monetize both YouTube and Orkut and it hasn’t even tried to monetize Blogger. Moreover, if social network users are resentful of ads intruding into their social interactions, content creators have come to expect at least a part of the ad revenue pie, even if they “choose” to put ads next to their content.

    I don’t think that significant advertising on Indian social networking sites will happen in 2009, and if it does happen, I don’t think it will be very effective. (I’m also surprised that brands are trying to do lead generation on Indian social networking sites. What are they thinking?)

    Marketing on social media is a long term, low burn game and I’m not sure how many Indian brands (or social networking sites, or advertising agencies) understand it or are willing to doing it.

     
  • Gaurav Mishra 12:03 pm on March 12, 2008 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: BabaJob, , , BigAdda, , , IDC Web Value Matrix, , , , , , , , Outlook Cover Story, , , , , , , Sumitr   

    What’s Wrong With Indian Social Networking Sites? 

    Quick Summary: To build an identity and a broad Indian user base for themselves, Indian social networking sites need to reflect the unique nature of relationships in the Indian society.

    - X – X – X -

    According to a recent cover story in the Outlook Magazine, there are almost 10 mn users of social networking sites in India. Orkut has 7.1 mn users, Facebook 1.6 mn, BharatStudent 1.7mn, Fropper 1.0 mn, BigAdda 1.4 mn, Minglebox 0.6 mn, adding up to 13.4 mn (tweet). Add smaller social networks, factor in duplication across social networks, and the total user base for social networks in India may be ~10 mn (tweet).

    As the number of Internet users in India is estimated at between 20 mn and 30 mn by most sources, at least one third of all Internet users in India now use a social network.

    However, according to the IDC Value Web Matrix study, there are only 1.5 mn users for India focused web 2.0 startups, including social networks (you can find a good list of Indian web 2.0 startups at Prabhu’s blog). As the study includes enterprise-focused web 2.0 startups like Zoho, the number of users for social networking websites in India may be closer to 1 mn. I know that BharatStudent in itself claims to have 1.7 mn users, but that number looks overstated to most people I have spoken to. In any case, we can safely peg the number of users for Indian social networking sites between 1 mn and 2 mn.

    Therefore, out of 10 mn social networking users in India only 1 mn to 2mn (only 10% to 20%) are on Indian social networking sites. Which begs the question: what’s wrong with Indian social networking sites (tweet)?

    Most of the Indian social networking sites are basically India-focused Facebook/ MySpace/ Orkut/ LinkedIn clones (tweet). Such clones would only be popular amongst a small set of twenty-something Indians in metros who won’t want a clone anyways (tweet).

    To really build an identity and a broad Indian user base for themselves, Indian social networking sites need to reflect the unique nature of relationships in the Indian society (tweet).

    To illustrate my point, let me plot the Indian social networking sites on a 2X2 matrix with Indian-vs-global social dynamics on the X-axis and Indian-vs-global user appeal on the Y-axis (tweet) –

    A Typology of Indian Social Networks

    Quadrant 1 (Global social dynamics and global user appeal): These are original concepts and tweaks with broad international appeal, Indian only because they are started by Indians (tweet). Examples include: Slideshare, Like, and my friend Shweta’s Criticat. Please note that most of these startups have a mix of Indian and foreign founders.

    Quadrant 2 (Indian social dynamics and global user appeal): I couldn’t find an example of such a social network, but a yoga-centered social network based on the guru-shishya tradition would probably fall in this quadrant.

    Quadrant 3 (Global social dynamics and Indian user appeal): These are India-focused Facebook/ MySpace/ Orkut/ LinkedIn clones. Most of the well-known Indian social networking sites would fall in this quadrant.

    Quadrant 4 (Indian social dynamics and Indian user appeal): These are original concepts & tweaks with niche Indian appeal. So far, I have been able to find only two examples. BabaJob – a Bangalore-based professional social network for household help – taps into the unique Indian dependence on household help (tweet). Sumitr allows you to create a password-protected, closed-wall private network for family members and close friends.

    Over time, such social networking sites that reflect the unique nature of relationships in the Indian society are more likely to build an unique identity and a broad Indian user base for themselves. Otherwise, most of the Indian users of social networking sites will continue to flock to Facebook/ MySpace/ Orkut/ LinkedIn and not their Indian clones.

    Do you know of any other Indian social networking sites that are built on uniquely Indian needs and sensibilities (tweet)?

    - X – X – X -

    Update: March 12

    Ideasmith raises a very important point regarding Indian matrimonial websites in the comments section

    I’ve a suggestion for Quadrant 2 – the matrimonial sites. Or don’t you consider them social networks?

    In fact, when I started writing this post, my starting point was that matrimonial websites — like BharatMatrimony, JeevanSaathi and Shaadi — are the Indian equivalent of international dating sites. A lot of my Indian friends who wouldn’t risk being seen on a dating site, use matrimonial sites basically to meet interesting people they can date (and, just maybe, marry). Ideasmith has a valid point. Matrimonial websites are also social networks — you create a profile, you browse or search for other people with similar interests and you connect with them online or offline. Except that I’ll classify matrimonial websites in quadrant 4 (Indian social dynamics and Indian user appeal), which means that my case that Indian social networking sites need to reflect the unique nature of relationships in the Indian society just became stronger.

     
    • Navin 12:43 pm on March 12, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      Gaurav,
      Your post seems to assume that there is indeed a need for an Indian/Indian social networking site that has broad appeal. Maybe that is not true. Maybe Indians are not that different from the rest of the world after all and facebook/orkut/linked-in are good enough for us to handle our online social lives.

      The two examples for Indian/Indian that you have listed (babajobs, sumitr) are both very specific (and tiny) niches, and I would say will never get more than a tiny fraction of users.

      I can only see a Indian/Indian site really hitting it big if it manages to draw in the non-web-savvy crowd. They guys with the mobile phones (but no computers). Or even the guys without computers (example)

    • IdeaSmith 12:44 pm on March 12, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      I’ve a suggestion for Quadrant 2 – the matrimonial sites. Or don’t you consider them social networks?

    • Gaurav 1:36 pm on March 12, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      @Ideasmith Very valid point. Yes, matrimonial websites are also social networks, except that I’ll classify them in quadrant 4 (Indian social dynamics and Indian user appeal), which means that my case that Indian social networking sites need to reflect the unique nature of relationships in the Indian society just became stronger.

    • Gaurav 2:01 pm on March 12, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      @Navin: Wow! You have raised some great points.

      You’ll find that I often approach the social media/ social networking space form a “business opportunity” perspective. I’m myself saying that most urban twenty-something Internet users will prefer Facebook/ Orkut/ LinkedIn to their Indian clones.

      Maybe BabaJob & Sumitr aren’t great quadrant 4 examples, but matrimonial websites are (see the update).

      I also agree that the big value in the future lies in the mobile web space:

      Mobile web users in India 38 mn. Internet users in India 22 mn. Mobile is going to be the growth engine for the web in India. tweet

    • Rajesh 6:07 pm on March 12, 2008 Permalink | Reply

    • Danesh 9:43 pm on March 12, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      I have posted some similar thoughts on ibibo.com here – http://www.daneshzaki.com/post/24301579

    • Nitin Rao 11:22 pm on March 12, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      Also a lot of Indians just like to try out something that’s tried and tested by millions of users across the world. Rather than try something new everytime and get confused.

      Nitin
      http://www.my2dimes.com/

    • Gaurav 11:38 am on March 13, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      @Rajesh: Great insights in your BlogTheTalk 2 panel discussion on social networks in India with Amit Ranjan, Alok Mittal and Prerna Gupta.

      @Danesh: Yes, I agree, great marketing will get people to sign-up for a service, but only a unique content or sevice offering will get people to stay and re-visit on a regular basis.

      @Nitin: That may be true for twenty-something Indians like us living in a metro, because our social dynamics have more or less converged with the West. However, I’m talking about a bigger opportunity — to tap into the older, non-metro, non-English-speaking, non-broadband, maybe non-Internet user — that the present Indian social networking sites are missing out on.

      Indian social networks can differentiate themselves along three different dimensions — social dynamics, language or access — and I haven’t seen much initiative along any of these.

    • Ekalavya 8:47 pm on March 17, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      U can’t call bigadda and ibibo indian sites with a global appeal

    • Gaurav 10:52 pm on March 17, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      @Eklavya: In fact, I haven’t called BigAdda and Ibibo “Indian sites with a global appeal”. I have classified them as clones of international social networks, in Quadrant 3 (global social dynamics and Indian user appeal).

    • (Another) Gaurav 12:41 am on March 18, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      Gaurav,

      I don’t think I will categorize matrimonial sites as social networks.

      “you create a profile, you browse or search for other people with similar interests and you connect with them online or offline”

      This is true, but one looks for a particular type of user (generally opposite sex), which means the user base is divided into 2 segments.

      Although you can create a free profile with most of the sites (you can’t do much with it though), but the site’s aim is to funnel you into buying the *premium* membership. So, I think the revenue models are different than a regular SN.

      There is no community aspect in matrimonial sites, which is the main focus of a SN. The relationships are based on one-to-one than being a group.

      People visit Matrimony sites and Dating sites for a particular goal – get married or find a date. Once the goal is achieved, the user does not return back. Whereas SN are used for general communication and not to achieve a goal.

      A lot of relatives/friends use matrimonial sites on behalf of the ‘user’, which beats the whole purpose of user interacting with other users.

      Sorry for the long comment. I’ll write another comment on my take on Indian focused SNs.

    • Jesmi 2:17 pm on April 9, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      I think that Indian social networks can differentiate themselves along three different dimensions. These are the social dynamics, language and access. But these dimensions are help to the Indian society become stronger.

    • Aakriti 3:44 pm on April 16, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      I really dont think that matrimonial sites are anywhere close to networking right now… the purpose is classifieds on the net… and not building a network there…

    • Suresh Mangaladurai 2:58 am on November 14, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      Its a pity that you talk of lack of originality and cloning done by Indian social networking sites but you have yourself not been original in naming your blog and have merely imitated Swaminathan's Swaminomics which was started by the Times of India. Even suggesting that Indian social networking sites must be based on the Indian Guru Sishys parambara as found in your matrix reflects an ignorance of the Guru sishya tradition for a Guru carefully selects his Sishya and does not interact with all and sundry, especially the creepy kind of characters that prowl around in these sites.

    • Suresh mangaladurai 3:01 am on November 14, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      Social networking on the web is a Western concept and in a country where the majority of Indians are illiterate or semi-literate (Govt. statistics be damned) expecting the people to network on the web is pretty dumb. At the most social networking on the net can only be a niche market with only pseudo Indians taking part. Actual networking in India especially in rural India is not virtual and takes place in village squares under the pupil tree and in temples, fairs and other melas. As conscientious Indians who should not lose touch with our roots we should not try the top down approach of thrusting Western mores, values and contemporary life-styles on the Indian people. They are not ready for it and many of them whom I have interacted with consider that imposing our will on them is only adding to their problems as well as pressures and not in anyway alleviating them.

    • kaali1900 6:11 am on January 21, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      I reckon that Social Networking is already splintering from broad to narrow/ special interest groups. Over the next couple of years, you will see a lot more special interest communities gathering momentum. http://biigpiic.com/ is for example a network that is consolidating advertising, events, fashion, movies, music, broadcasting and publishing segments.

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