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		<title>By: Gaurav Mishra</title>
		<link>http://www.gauravonomics.com/blog/the-marketer-who-hates-the-social-media-hustle/comment-page-1/#comment-9082</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaurav Mishra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 05:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Naperville Mom: The realization that hustling is inevitable in marketing is part of the reason why I&#039;m tired of hustling... and marketing in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Naperville Mom: The realization that hustling is inevitable in marketing is part of the reason why I&#8217;m tired of hustling&#8230; and marketing in general.</p>
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		<title>By: naperville mom</title>
		<link>http://www.gauravonomics.com/blog/the-marketer-who-hates-the-social-media-hustle/comment-page-1/#comment-8249</link>
		<dc:creator>naperville mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting...me too in the category of &#039;hustling haters&#039; but y&#039;know, in an odd sort of way, without hustling, there&#039;d be no marketing, no viewership, no takers for ideas/ ideologies/ products...marketing is &#039;hustling&#039; to put it in raw words, I&#039;d assume...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting&#8230;me too in the category of &#8216;hustling haters&#8217; but y&#8217;know, in an odd sort of way, without hustling, there&#8217;d be no marketing, no viewership, no takers for ideas/ ideologies/ products&#8230;marketing is &#8216;hustling&#8217; to put it in raw words, I&#8217;d assume&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gaurav Mishra</title>
		<link>http://www.gauravonomics.com/blog/the-marketer-who-hates-the-social-media-hustle/comment-page-1/#comment-8230</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaurav Mishra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Vivek: &lt;blockquote&gt;At times even when you don’t intend to hustle your readers , too much of redundant stuff sends the wrong message.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You are right. I sometimes forget that a few hundred people read every word I write and start treating my blog as an online diary or a scrapbook and, sometimes, almost as a memory aid. That happened with all the posts about my citizen journalism interviews in the last two weeks. The lesson I have learnt is to remember how it looks from outside in.

But, I wasn&#039;t talking about that here, I was talking about situations when I know I&#039;m hustling, when I&#039;m almost expected to hustle, like the three situations I wrote about. 

@Dina/ @Manuscrypt: I agree with your point about the difference between hustling to promote yourself promote something bigger than yourself. My point was that hustling is tiring irrespective of what your are hustling for. In my case, I was hustling for a cause against terrorism, a social mobile venture and a book whose proceeds go to charity.

@Ankesh: My own approach to community building is really quite similar: first, focus on building something worthwhile, then the community will follow. Both &quot;1000 True Fans&quot; and &quot;Made to Stick&quot; are great reads and I go back to them often. And thanks for pointing out &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/havi&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@havi&lt;/a&gt;: I&#039;m following her now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Vivek:<br />
<blockquote>At times even when you don’t intend to hustle your readers , too much of redundant stuff sends the wrong message.</p></blockquote>
<p>You are right. I sometimes forget that a few hundred people read every word I write and start treating my blog as an online diary or a scrapbook and, sometimes, almost as a memory aid. That happened with all the posts about my citizen journalism interviews in the last two weeks. The lesson I have learnt is to remember how it looks from outside in.</p>
<p>But, I wasn&#8217;t talking about that here, I was talking about situations when I know I&#8217;m hustling, when I&#8217;m almost expected to hustle, like the three situations I wrote about. </p>
<p>@Dina/ @Manuscrypt: I agree with your point about the difference between hustling to promote yourself promote something bigger than yourself. My point was that hustling is tiring irrespective of what your are hustling for. In my case, I was hustling for a cause against terrorism, a social mobile venture and a book whose proceeds go to charity.</p>
<p>@Ankesh: My own approach to community building is really quite similar: first, focus on building something worthwhile, then the community will follow. Both &#8220;1000 True Fans&#8221; and &#8220;Made to Stick&#8221; are great reads and I go back to them often. And thanks for pointing out <a href="http://twitter.com/havi" rel="nofollow">@havi</a>: I&#8217;m following her now.</p>
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		<title>By: vinod</title>
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		<dc:creator>vinod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a very very crude form of saying yes u r right, but its the end that justifies the means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a very very crude form of saying yes u r right, but its the end that justifies the means.</p>
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		<title>By: Ankesh Kothari</title>
		<link>http://www.gauravonomics.com/blog/the-marketer-who-hates-the-social-media-hustle/comment-page-1/#comment-8220</link>
		<dc:creator>Ankesh Kothari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Gaurav.  Not trying to change your opinions, but trying to lay down a different outlook of how to use social media without hustling:

1. First rule of networking: you need to have something of value to give to people.  If you can help people, your networking - either online or offline - won&#039;t feel like hustling.  Mother Teresa - Princess Diana - you wouldn&#039;t call them hustlers, would you?  But thats what they did.  Hustled with love.

2. &quot;Build small community and thousands will want to join.&quot; - Confucius.  You could use social media to build small but intensely loyal communities too.  You don&#039;t really need 23,000 followers like Chris Brogan and Gary Vaynerchuck.  As Kevin Kelly says - a 1000 true fans is enough to spread your message far and wide.  (Google &quot;1000 true fans&quot; - its an interesting read.)

3. Focus on a 1000 true fans.  And focus on making the ideas you talk about sticky and viral.  And you&#039;re set.  No working the room necessary.  No hustling needed.  (Good book to read = &quot;Made to stick&quot;.)

For every Anthony Robbins or Dan Kennedy - there is a Roy H. Williams or a Sean D&#039;Souza.  For every @chrisbrogan - there is a @havi - (check her out.)  Yes - there are other approaches out there that wont make you feel like a consummate hustler!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Gaurav.  Not trying to change your opinions, but trying to lay down a different outlook of how to use social media without hustling:</p>
<p>1. First rule of networking: you need to have something of value to give to people.  If you can help people, your networking &#8211; either online or offline &#8211; won&#8217;t feel like hustling.  Mother Teresa &#8211; Princess Diana &#8211; you wouldn&#8217;t call them hustlers, would you?  But thats what they did.  Hustled with love.</p>
<p>2. &#8220;Build small community and thousands will want to join.&#8221; &#8211; Confucius.  You could use social media to build small but intensely loyal communities too.  You don&#8217;t really need 23,000 followers like Chris Brogan and Gary Vaynerchuck.  As Kevin Kelly says &#8211; a 1000 true fans is enough to spread your message far and wide.  (Google &#8220;1000 true fans&#8221; &#8211; its an interesting read.)</p>
<p>3. Focus on a 1000 true fans.  And focus on making the ideas you talk about sticky and viral.  And you&#8217;re set.  No working the room necessary.  No hustling needed.  (Good book to read = &#8220;Made to stick&#8221;.)</p>
<p>For every Anthony Robbins or Dan Kennedy &#8211; there is a Roy H. Williams or a Sean D&#8217;Souza.  For every @chrisbrogan &#8211; there is a @havi &#8211; (check her out.)  Yes &#8211; there are other approaches out there that wont make you feel like a consummate hustler!</p>
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		<title>By: Vivek Khandelwal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vivek Khandelwal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey..
Nice post.
At times even when as a social media evangelist , when you don&#039;t intend to hustle your readers , too much of redundant stuff sends the wrong message.But then there are times when Hustle actually leads to real time, very genuine conversations , which everybody enjoys.
Its not really bout the hustle as u say..its more bout the art, or infact the timing of the hustle. 
If one does it at time when everybody is doing it,  oyu might be blamed for overdoing it ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey..<br />
Nice post.<br />
At times even when as a social media evangelist , when you don&#8217;t intend to hustle your readers , too much of redundant stuff sends the wrong message.But then there are times when Hustle actually leads to real time, very genuine conversations , which everybody enjoys.<br />
Its not really bout the hustle as u say..its more bout the art, or infact the timing of the hustle.<br />
If one does it at time when everybody is doing it,  oyu might be blamed for overdoing it ..</p>
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		<title>By: manuscrypts</title>
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		<dc:creator>manuscrypts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I abso agree with dina..i believe in the self correcting mechanism that the medium offers... it rests on the intent of the &#039;hustling&#039;... its a choice for the &#039;hustler&#039;, with its own set of pros and cons.. yes, the names you have mentioned do hustle, but i still read them because their content gives me food for thought... its a choice for the reader also..like any product, the smart customer chooses to be hustled by certain communication, because he knows its a good deal.. in the end its a trust thing, the moment i realise that the author is all about himself and has stopped adding value to my life, i switch off... in this case, pride comes before a #FAIL ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I abso agree with dina..i believe in the self correcting mechanism that the medium offers&#8230; it rests on the intent of the &#8216;hustling&#8217;&#8230; its a choice for the &#8216;hustler&#8217;, with its own set of pros and cons.. yes, the names you have mentioned do hustle, but i still read them because their content gives me food for thought&#8230; its a choice for the reader also..like any product, the smart customer chooses to be hustled by certain communication, because he knows its a good deal.. in the end its a trust thing, the moment i realise that the author is all about himself and has stopped adding value to my life, i switch off&#8230; in this case, pride comes before a #FAIL <img src='http://www.gauravonomics.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Conversations with Dina &#187; To hustle &#8230; or not?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conversations with Dina &#187; To hustle &#8230; or not?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] calls himself &#8220;the marketer who hates the social media hustle&#8221;. And yet he finds himself hustling, as he believes much of what we do in social media is hustle: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] calls himself &#8220;the marketer who hates the social media hustle&#8221;. And yet he finds himself hustling, as he believes much of what we do in social media is hustle: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gaurav Mishra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaurav Mishra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DIna: Of course you are right. I have great respect and envy for all these people, both for the skill and ease with which they use social media and for how they do it to help their communities. I didn&#039;t really mean to say that hustling itself is bad, just that I hate doing it. As I said, it has been a long and tiring day. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DIna: Of course you are right. I have great respect and envy for all these people, both for the skill and ease with which they use social media and for how they do it to help their communities. I didn&#8217;t really mean to say that hustling itself is bad, just that I hate doing it. As I said, it has been a long and tiring day. <img src='http://www.gauravonomics.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dina mehta</title>
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		<dc:creator>dina mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gaurav, I hate hustling too. I don&#039;t buy that Social Media is all about hustling. That&#039;s doing injustice to users of social media and your readers by implying they can and will be &#039;hustled&#039;!!!  

We all hustle once in a while. If the &#039;hustling&#039; leads to meaningful dialogue/conversation/action that is visible to those who are recipients of your &quot;hustle&quot; then it makes sense. If it&#039;s only about how great I am, and how great I am perceived by my community and the rest of the world, it just won&#039;t work. 

A lot of the people you mention use their social media &#039;whuffie&#039; for causes outside themselves - is that hustling? 

Building your influence and brand really comes from the relationships you are able to build with a wide audience based on solid and credible work, thought, intent, experience, energy, imagination.   Not just hustling :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaurav, I hate hustling too. I don&#8217;t buy that Social Media is all about hustling. That&#8217;s doing injustice to users of social media and your readers by implying they can and will be &#8216;hustled&#8217;!!!  </p>
<p>We all hustle once in a while. If the &#8216;hustling&#8217; leads to meaningful dialogue/conversation/action that is visible to those who are recipients of your &#8220;hustle&#8221; then it makes sense. If it&#8217;s only about how great I am, and how great I am perceived by my community and the rest of the world, it just won&#8217;t work. </p>
<p>A lot of the people you mention use their social media &#8216;whuffie&#8217; for causes outside themselves &#8211; is that hustling? </p>
<p>Building your influence and brand really comes from the relationships you are able to build with a wide audience based on solid and credible work, thought, intent, experience, energy, imagination.   Not just hustling <img src='http://www.gauravonomics.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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